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Re: Xway feedback

Carla Grande
 

Thx Jeremy. Hmm.. I started a new project but there is no automated resource folder..  or Site folder
Maybe I just cant find it..


Re: Xway feedback

Walter Lee Davis
 

These folders are inside the Xway document itself. In Finder (only if you’re curious), Control-click on the document icon, and choose “Show bundle contents” from the contextual menu. You’ll need to dig down in the resulting Finder window to find them. 

Walter

On Nov 6, 2019, at 10:33 AM, Carla Grande <carla@...> wrote:

Thx Jeremy. Hmm.. I started a new project but there is no automated resource folder..  or Site folder
Maybe I just cant find it..


Re: Xway feedback

Carla Grande
 

Of course Walter.. I figured it out right after I sent reply.. so there it is! got it


Re: Xway feedback

Jeremy Hughes
 

Note that: although you can look inside the document package by using "Show Package Contents", it's generally not a good idea to make changes such as adding or removing stuff!

Ditto for almost any other kind of package.

Jeremy


Re: Xway feedback

Tim Plumb
 

Note that: although you can look inside the document package by using "Show Package Contents", it's generally not a good idea to make changes such as adding or removing stuff!
...but that's where the fun is Jeremy. I've already had a play with the document.plist file! :-)


Xway b1 - bug: Background origin and clip options

Tim Plumb
 

Background origin and clip options for background images can't be set to undefined and simply snap back to their last selected option.


Xway b1 - bug: Audio tracks are displayed at max-width 50%

Tim Plumb
 

Audio tracks added to a page are displayed at max-width 50% (like video) but don't need to be. (At least I can't think why they should be).


Xway b1 - bug: User error can cause Xway to create invalid font styles

Tim Plumb
 

If you leave the Alternative Fonts field empty in the Fonts view Xway creates an invalid font-family style.
For example: font-family: myfont, ,cursive
Note the empty font reference in the list.


Xway b1 - UI: Recent URLs list is missing a label

Tim Plumb
 

The Text > Link dialog is missing a label for the recent URLs list. Without it (and unpopulated) it just looks broken and confusing.


Re: Xway b1 - bug: Background origin and clip options

Jeremy Hughes
 

Hi Tim,

Background origin and clip options for background images can't be set to undefined and simply snap back to their last selected option.
This isn't a bug. Xway (like Freeway) displays the current style value, whether it is defined or not.

For example (different example), if you create a new page and look at the Size field/popup in the Text section, it will say “medium”. If you choose “Undefined” it will still say medium.

This is because “medium” is the default CSS size for text, if you haven’t defined a different size.

If you change the Text size to 36px, you have defined a different (non-default) value. Now, if you choose “Undefined” it will revert to “medium” (the default value).

The situation with background origins and clips is exactly the same. If you change them to a non-default value, Undefined will reset them to the default value.

What “Undefined” does is to remove a value that you have specifically defined. When that value is removed, the style property is inherited from a parent item, or from the CSS default value.

Freeway works in a similar way, except that it generally doesn’t allow you to undefine values. For example, if you type text in a box (in Freeway) you will probably see that the Inspector palette displays the text colour as Black, although you haven’t chosen this colour (black is the default). If you publish the text, it’s not specified as black. However, if you change the colour to red and then change it back to black (in Freeway) and publish your page you will see that the colour is now defined as black. Freeway doesn’t give you a way to undefine it.

There is some discussion of “Undefined” on page 53 of the User Guide.

Jeremy


Re: Xway b1 - bug: Audio tracks are displayed at max-width 50%

Jeremy Hughes
 

Audio tracks added to a page are displayed at max-width 50% (like video) but don't need to be. (At least I can't think why they should be).
I can’t either. I’ve logged this as a bug.

Jeremy


Re: Xway feedback

max.izzat@...
 
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Hi Jeremy 

One thing that seems to missed off from the 'missing list' (I do appreciate it was just a small list) was using classes rather than ID. That was one of Freeways Achilles heels, so many of the styles were duplicated when they didn't need to be. The other problem was when it came to valid HTML and using a CMS to create a duplicate structure. I think me, Walter, Tim and a few others had at one point or another a stab at creating actions that structured the HTML and rewrote the styles so that classes were used instead of ID's. Is that one of the areas you had planned to look at in the future as well?

cheers max


Re: Xway b1 - UI: Recent URLs list is missing a label

Jeremy Hughes
 
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The Text > Link dialog is missing a label for the recent URLs list. Without it (and unpopulated) it just looks broken and confusing.
I’ve logged this as a suggestion.

This popup isn't quite the same as a Recent URLs popup. It’s inter-related with the URL field and it displays the *current* URL (along with recent URLs)

Currently the "URL" label applies to both the URL field and the URL popup (since they’re inter-related).

Freeway’s equivalent is called “Quick Links”, and displays a popup that is always empty.

Jeremy


Re: Xway feedback

Jeremy Hughes
 
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Hi Max,

This is something that I've thought about, but I don't have any clear ideas about how to do it yet.

If you're interested in starting a discussion, you could open a new thread and explain (in more detail) why this would be useful.

The (incomplete) list of missing features is mostly features that are in Freeway but aren't yet in Xway. I didn't include features that aren't in Freeway - except for Printing.

Jeremy


Re: Xway feedback

max.izzat@...
 

Ok Jeremy sound like a plan it would be good to get a view from Walter, Tim and all the others that require that sort of flexibility

Max


Xway UI approach ...

Richard van Heukelum <rvanheukelum@...>
 

First of all a great thank you for Jeremy, who's been working on this for so long.
I personally think the UI like done here offers more control and consistency. I do realise the current app is still work in progress, but with that in mind I think that that specific approach opens more doors.


Re: Xway UI approach ...

Jeremy Hughes
 

Hi Richard,

Thanks for the feedback! Can you update the link though? (I get 404 Not Found)

Jeremy


Re: Xway b1 - bug: User error can cause Xway to create invalid font styles

Jeremy Hughes
 

Hi Tim,

Can you give me some steps, because I'm having trouble reproducing this?

1. Choose "Other..." from a Font menu
2. Type "Palatino" as the Font Name
3. Leave the Alternative Fonts field empty
4. >> The New Font dialog displays "Palatino, serif"
5. Preview
6. >> Xway outputs "font-family:Palatino,serif"

Jeremy


Xway b1 - UI: Site panel selection issues

Tim Plumb
 

The site panel can only select elements that are in the same level as each other. A page/ or sub page element cannot be selected along with another at another level. For example two divs on different pages.


Re: Xway UI approach ...

Tim Plumb
 
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