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Re: XWay wont save document?

Seth Rosenblum
 

Fixed! I ended up trashing the document.plist from within the package, upon reopening, Xway couldn't find the file but after I pointed to it and opened it I was then able to save as normal. Yay!


Re: XWay wont save document?

Seth Rosenblum
 

I’ve not pasted any images, I did add some PDF’s as resources, though none of them had unusual names,  I’ve now tried deleting all those that I added along with the links to them but still getting the same error message…. I tried reverting back to a previous version from yesterday and still the same message….also have tried the obvious quitting the app and rebooting to no avail….


Re: XWay wont save document?

Jeremy Hughes
 

Hi Seth,

This is a system alert. I've never seen it happen with Xway, but I found a thread where people discuss having this problem with TextEdit. Do any of their suggestions sound relevant? Have you pasted any images?

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6011576

Jeremy


XWay wont save document?

Seth Rosenblum
 

I've been working on an Xway site and suddenly getting the message "The document xx.xway could not be autosaved. The file name is invalid. Your changes will not be saved until the problem is resolved" I've tried changing the document name, tried "saving as" but it just wont save... I hate to loose hours of work! Any suggestions?


Re: Boxes inside boxes (FW - Float Left)

Jeremy Hughes
 

Hi Grant,

Xway doesn't support float directly (yet), but you can do this using extended style properties: select an item that you wish to float, open the Extended Properties section in the Box Inspector, click on the plus icon, and type "float" for Name and "left" for value (both without quotes).

Using float as a general layout method (rather than for floated images etc.) can be problematic, and sometimes requires additional hacks (such as clearfix). An alternative (better) way of distributing items is to use flexbox:

https://css-tricks.com/snippets/css/a-guide-to-flexbox/

Xway doesn't support flexbox directly (yet), but extended properties can be used once again: this is how the boxes near the bottom of our Xway page ("Built for HTML and CSS from the ground up") are laid out.

https://www.softpress.com/xway/

Jeremy


Re: Boxes inside boxes (FW - Float Left)

Seth Rosenblum
 

Me 3!


Re: Boxes inside boxes (FW - Float Left)

jay farber
 

Me too.

On Jul 4, 2020, at 8:03 AM, grantsymon <xway@gsymon.com> wrote:

I'm struggling to work out how I can create a similar layout to one I would make in FW, e.g. by inserting 4 HTML Items with a width of 25% into an HTML item and choosing Float Left for these items. The end result being 4 boxes, side by side.

Specifically in Xway, I'd like to have an image box, a text box and another image box at the same level of the page.


Boxes inside boxes (FW - Float Left)

grantsymon
 

I'm struggling to work out how I can create a similar layout to one I would make in FW, e.g. by inserting 4 HTML Items with a width of 25% into an HTML item and choosing Float Left for these items.  The end result being 4 boxes, side by side.

Specifically in Xway, I'd like to have an image box, a text box and another image box at the same level of the page.


Re: Collapsing Header - simulate effect from Freeway #header #layer

grantsymon
 

Thanks Jeremy!

There’s more information on this in the manual
I already looked online at Softpress.com for a manual... but of course, there is a menu called 'Help'.  Duhhh.

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May I add, that with this initial brief foray into Xway, I think you are building a really really excellent app.  I already like the Mac layout, with panels each side, as in Pages, but aside from that, I feel that I'm looking at an app, that has been really well worked out, with a lot of careful thought and a really nice UI, e.g., the button bars at the top are so incredibly simple compared to FW.  I find myself just automatically going full-screen, which of course, works really well with the Xway help app Tiled narrow down one side.  I think it is going to be easier to use than Freeway, by an order of magnitude.   😎


Re: Collapsing Header - simulate effect from Freeway #header #layer

Jeremy Hughes
 


Hold down Option to duplicate: this only works with inflow boxes (currently), but it’s easy to convert from absolute/fixed to inflow (relative/none) and back.
... although a simpler way of duplicating an absolute/fixed box is to choose Duplicate from the Edit menu (Command-D).

Jeremy


Re: Collapsing Header - simulate effect from Freeway #header #layer

Jeremy Hughes
 

Hi Grant,

Z-Index controls the front-to-back order of items. There’s more information on this in the manual, but if you set the z-index of the text box to be -1, it will be positioned behind the other boxes.

You can’t reorder boxes in the Site panel yet, but you can move/duplicate them in the Page view (since b2). Hold down Option to duplicate: this only works with inflow boxes (currently), but it’s easy to convert from absolute/fixed to inflow (relative/none) and back.

Copying and pasting boxes is on our to-do list.

Jeremy


Re: Collapsing Header - simulate effect from Freeway #header #layer

grantsymon
 

Hi Jeremy,

thanks for the reply.

I've tried every variation I can think of, but whatever I do, the scrolling text is always visible in front (on top of) the fixed block.  Is there a way to change the order in the way that you can with layers?

Since an image is worth a thousand words... here's a screen-grab

and since a file is worth a thousand other words... here's my test file

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As an aside ... during this test, I find myself trying to select and move/drag, or copy/paste boxes.  It seems you can't do this, either via the Site panel, nor via the actual items themselves?


Re: Adding Link to text span causes crash

Jeremy Hughes
 

Art sent me his document and steps, and I've replied to him separately, but here is some general information for anyone else who might run into this. This is a bug that is already fixed in our internal builds, but which we didn't realise was a crashing bug. The bug occurs when a link is applied to a span that contains all the text that is in a paragraph. One way to work around this (for now) is to remove the span before setting the link. You can do this by putting a text insertion point inside the span, and choosing None from the Span section of the Span Inspector. You can add the span back afterwards, but an alternative (that is often better) is to apply styling via default link styles.

We'll try to release a bug fix shortly (b2.2).

Jeremy


Re: Adding Link to text span causes crash

Art Liestman
 

Yes, I'm using b2.1 and I'll send you the document and steps as you request.  I don't know if it's "large" (I don't think so), but I'll send it to support in the next hour.  Thanks!

Art


Re: Collapsing Header - simulate effect from Freeway #header #layer

Jeremy Hughes
 

Hi Grant,

Xway doesn't use the term "layers", but boxes that have Absolute or Fixed position are equivalent to layers in Freeway.

To create an absolute or fixed position box in Xway, insert a box and choose Absolute or Fixed from the Position menu in the Style section of the Box Inspector.

Boxes with absolute or fixed position need to be used with care, because they don't respond to changes in the position or size of other items, but that's less of a problem if you place them at the top of their parent item. If it works in Freeway, there's no reason why it shouldn't work in Xway.

Jeremy


Collapsing Header - simulate effect from Freeway #header #layer

grantsymon
 

I've just started playing around with XWay and have to say, I really like what I've seen so far.  I worked through the tutorial and now I'm looking to make a simple site to understand better.

One aspect of the web as we know it today, that always puzzles me, is why page header so often completely disappear when we scroll down the page.  It seems to break some branding golden rules, but also seems to me to gain nothing when it switches to a hamburger menu, as the space either side is often just empty.

I used a simple method in Freeway, using smoke and mirrors, to collapse a large header down to a small header when scrolling.  It used layers, fixed in window position and absolute position.  I'm having trouble seeing how to do this in Xway.  I understand that layers are not possible, but it appears that everything must be inside the page-wrapper, so I can't place one object on top of another... or can I??

Here is a test site using Freeway, which shows the technique I would like to emulate:
TestCollapsingHeader

Here are a couple of grabs of the file in Freeway:
CollapsingHeader1
CollapsingHeader2

Any pointers on how to achieve this will be much appreciated. 🙂


Re: Adding Link to text span causes crash

Jeremy Hughes
 

Hi Art,

Thanks for reporting this!

1. Are you using the latest version of Xway (b2.1)?

2. If the problem happens in b2.1, can you send me an Xway document with some steps that will cause it to happen?

E.g. 1. Open [this document]
       2. Apply a page link to the following text (e.g. a word or phrase)
       3. >> Xway crashes

If your Xway document is large, you could duplicate it and remove unnecessary pages from the duplicate. It's a good idea to zip the document before sending it. Either send it as an attachment to "support at softpress dot com" or put it online somewhere and send a link.

Jeremy


Adding Link to text span causes crash

Art Liestman
 

I'm trying to create a new website to replace my old one (done in Freeway).  So far, I've managed to get several pages that seem to preview cleanly.  I want to create links from these pages to others by adding links to text.  It seems to work fine when the links are external, but I want to link to other pages that I'm creating.  My first attempt today has gone badly.  I've tried adding a link pointing to a new page to text on one of the pages that seem to work, but every time (7 tries so far) that I try to select the name of the page that I want to link to, XWay crashes.  I have no idea what I'm doing wrong.  As I said, it works fine to add external links, but it doesn't seem to want to link to a page.   I saved the last log when it crashed.  If you want to look at that, tell me how to send it to you.


Re: Thanks for Xway, so far it seems easier to me than Freeway was,

Jeremy Hughes
 

Hi Jay,

1) Can I copy elements from one Website(document) to another ? Such as a Button like Facebook navigation button?
You can paste plain text and images into Xway. That allows you to paste text from a Freeway document. I don't think it's possible to paste images from Freeway into Xway (or into any other program, as far as I can see), but you can copy/paste images from a web browser, or you can reimport the original images.

2) Will I be able to use the site I build in the beta with the Retail version moving forward?
Yes. Newer versions of Xway can open documents from older versions.

3) Can I add a blog hosted somewhere else? And is that a copy and past of referring code to the location of the blog?
I think you could use an iframe to do this. Xway also allows you to add code directly, through markup items and other forms of markup - similar to Freeway, but with a few more options.

A good place to start is by working through the step-by-step tutorial (if you haven't done so already).

Jeremy


Re: Thanks for Xway, so far it seems easier to me than Freeway was,

jay farber
 

Thanks I will give it a go.
Be Safe

On Jun 28, 2020, at 8:55 AM, Walter Lee Davis <waltd@wdstudio.com> wrote:

I can't answer your other questions, but this one is straightforward:

On Jun 27, 2020, at 4:13 PM, jay farber via groups.io <jfmusic=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

Also from the "novice I'm trying to learn perspective":
If I have a current godaddy site built or Freeway build but hosted on godaddy, can I add new pages created in Xway to the Godaddy hosted sites?
I get there needs to be navigation pointed from the original build to the new pages, but can I ftp a page into godaddy folders and just add a link from within the Godaddy freeway side to connect them?

What I would do is create a directory (folder) on your server where your new Xway site can live, and then in Freeway, link into that folder to connect the two. Use Transmit or Fetch to upload the Xway site contents into that folder on your host.

In Xway (as in Freeway) the first page you create in a site or subfolder within a site will be named index.html. Take advantage of that by creating your link in Freeway to `/folder_name` (whatever you called it). In Xway, create your link back to the main site by using the special URL `../`. Both of these URLs get created manually, using the Edit / Hyperlink dialog in Freeway and the Text / Link dialog in Xway. Use the External option in either.

By creating the links in this manner (relative addresses) you take away any of the complexity, and don't have to worry about what happens if your Xway micro-site changes in any way. Presumably it will always have a "home" page that will display when the folder name is entered into a URL.

(Obligatory style note: if you are reading this message in Mail, the "back-tick" characters I typed above are there to provide Markdown syntax highlighting to the links. They are not part of the link itself.)

Hope this helps,

Walter

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