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Re: How are people getting on with Xway?

ThatKeith
 

Yes, stuff made with Actions can be awkward to reproduce. I have used iframes in my Xway site to include content that is outside the scope of Xway itself. (It was also outside Freeway's cope as it's 360 VR photos and tours.) I wonder whether that might be a useful way to go for now? I haven't tested these third-party slide show tools but if they can make self-contained HTML-based slideshows you could slot their output into an Xway page relatively easily.

https://www.cincopa.com/media-platform/html-slideshow
http://www.123-slideshow.com
https://imageslidermaker.com

But you'll need to have SSL set up on your domain so you can use https rather than http in the iframe URL. Or use a protocol-relative // instead of the full https://. I hit a few learning point hiccups while getting this working, but I know https is basically where we should all be going and there are good reasons to not use http for iframe source content. It works fine with free SSL, nothing heavy-duty needed.

k


Re: How are people getting on with Xway?

@Nick48
 

I have been 'poking around' rather than re-building my sites, this is because my Freeway sites all have slide shows built with an Action. Until these are available its difficult for me to proceed other than 'poking around', but I am keen to use the finished article on my new iMac Catalina rather than maintaining my sites on a small screen laptop.


How are people getting on with Xway?

ThatKeith
 

I'm curious about how people are finding using Xway. Any sites or sections of sites to show and talk about?

I know what we're using now is a feature-incomplete beta, but after putting some time into trying it out properly I'm starting to REALLY like it! I found it really helped to have a specific site project to try and build rather than just poking around to see how things worked. (I know this from design and production teaching too; my students always benefit from planning and attempting to achieve a specific outcome rather than just testing some features or even going through a generic tutorial.)

I rebuilt my panorama site with Xway, and through doing it I learned a lot and thoroughly enjoyed the process. I am really looking forward to using the finished version, whenever that might come!

So go on, let's show stuff and see if we can pick up tips from each other. :)

Keith


Re: My Sql

Steve Gunther
 

Cool. I will look at this. Thanks very much for the answer!!!


Re: My Sql

Jeremy Hughes
 

Hi Steve,

Actions (or plug-ins of some kind) are on our to-do list.

You can also use markup to add scripts within Xway (as you can in Freeway).

Jeremy


Re: My Sql

Walter Lee Davis
 

On Jun 9, 2020, at 11:37 AM, order@depth.net.au wrote:

Ah, thanks for the clear reply.

I have another question. Selling a product. Buyers arrive at the sales page. Paypal doesnt allow you to use coupons...is it possible to have some kind of field in Xway where people enter a coupon code, and then according to the code, it takes them to a different page on my site? Or does that require more of the not-to-be actions?
It's not so much not-to-be, but more like not-yet.

You could do this in a very low-tech manner, by creating a page named exactly for your coupon code (say, XTRA-DISCOUNT.html) and then using a little JavaScript to link to that when someone adds a coupon code. You'd need to set up a different PayPal button on that page, one that already took the coupon code into effect, and that would get you what you want, albeit with a lot of extra hand-work and duplicate pages. There would be absolutely nothing keeping anyone (or bot) from discovering that page, except for the cryptic URL, so there's always a chance that your codes would find a wider distribution than you intended... Of course that's always true, and coupon codes are one of the most-pirated things I know of, right after Photoshop.

So to make this work, you would create a form with one text field and a submit button labeled "Check Code" or something like that. Make sure the form has an Action set to '#', and a Method of GET. Xway doesn't support creating forms yet, so this is either theoretical, or something for you to implement in a Markup Item, depending on your level of devotion to the craft.

On the button, you would add an onclick attribute, which will "hijack" that button click and cause the form to redirect. This technique is similar to the ancient "Password Protected Page" Action of Freeway of Yore.

```html
<form action="#" method="get">
<label for="code">Coupon Code</label>
<input id="code">
<input type="submit" value="Check Code" onclick="return check_code(this)">
</form>
```

```js
<script>
function check_code(button){
var code = button.form.getElementById('code').value;
if(!!code){
button.form.action = code + '.html';
return true;
}else{
alert('Please enter a coupon code');
return false;
}
}
</script>
```

Untested, but should probably work.

Please let me know if this makes any sense at all.

Walter


Re: My Sql

Steve Gunther
 

Ah, thanks for the clear reply.

I have another question. Selling a product. Buyers arrive at the sales page. Paypal doesnt allow you to use coupons...is it possible to have some kind of field in Xway where people enter a coupon code, and then according to the code, it takes them to a different page on my site? Or does that require more of the not-to-be actions?


Re: My Sql

Walter Lee Davis
 

I don't speak for the company, but based on my decades of experience with Freeway, I would say no, not now at least. Xway follows in Freeway's footsteps as a static HTML generator, and it does not have any associations with MySQL or other databases. There were some PHP/MySQL Freeway Actions many years ago, written by Paul Dunning, but they have not been updated for many years, and do not represent modern thinking in Web application design in any way. I'm sure that Paul would agree with me that using them in today's Web would be a very risky idea.

If Xway were to grow this sort of facility, it would likely start with an Action, and as you know, Actions aren't available for Xway yet (the technology isn't even there to support them). I would imagine that adding it to the core of the application would be a "much later, probably never" sort of thing.

For now, if you wanted to maintain a database backup of your form submissions, you may want to investigate a service that will do this for you. Here's one page that has a write-up of the problem, and some solutions. I haven't tried any of these personally. https://forestry.io/blog/5-ways-to-handle-forms-on-your-static-site/

Walter

On Jun 9, 2020, at 10:24 AM, order@depth.net.au wrote:

I have to admit, I have not learned Xway yet. I guess I am waiting either until there is a conversion process form Freeway, or I have to create a new website, and therefore need to apply myself sooner rather than later.

I do have a question. Is there some facility for Xway to save data to an sql base. So, for instance, currently when I have a new client registration, they fill out a form, and it arrives in an email to me. Will there be some way that that information gets saved to a database?


My Sql

Steve Gunther
 

I have to admit, I have not learned Xway yet. I guess I am waiting either until there is a conversion process form Freeway, or I have to create a new website, and therefore need to apply myself sooner rather than later.

I do have a question. Is there some facility for Xway to save data to an sql base. So, for instance, currently when I have a new client registration, they fill out a form, and it arrives in an email to me. Will there be some way that that information gets saved to a database?


Re: b3

Jeremy Hughes
 

In a few months time, I would guess.

Jeremy

On 9 Jun 2020, at 06:37, Tommy <ttiwk@outlook.com> wrote:

Hi Jeremy,

Do you have a scheduled date for Xway b3?

Thanks,

Tommy


b3

Tommy <ttiwk@...>
 

Hi Jeremy,
 
Do you have a scheduled date for Xway b3?
 
Thanks,
 
Tommy


Re: Tables in Xway

Walter Lee Davis
 

This is on the stated path, Jeremy has posted about this (and the User Guide (in the Help menu) lists it as a feature to be implemented. Look on or near page 14 under missing features.

Walter

On Jun 2, 2020, at 7:13 AM, Alan Coomber via groups.io <a.coomber730=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

Good morning,

I'm enjoying learning to use Xway to recreate one of my Freeway sites. All is well, I'm finding my way around and it's looking good. However, the site requires weekly publication of competition results - there's lots of scores, averages etc. In Freeway it was easy to create good looking tables and then import weekly results from Excel via a csv file. Can you confirm that you'll be including this facility in future versions of Xway?

Not being able to do this is the only thing stopping me from moving from Freeway to Xway, and from Mojave to Catalina.

Many thanks, keep up the good work

Alan Coomber



Tables in Xway

Alan Coomber
 

Good morning,

I'm enjoying learning to use Xway to recreate one of my Freeway sites. All is well, I'm finding my way around and it's looking good.  However, the site requires weekly publication of competition results - there's lots of scores, averages etc.  In Freeway it was easy to create good looking tables and then import weekly results from Excel via a csv file.   Can you confirm that you'll be including this facility in future versions of Xway?

Not being able to do this is the only thing stopping me from moving from Freeway to Xway, and from Mojave to Catalina.

Many thanks, keep up the good work

Alan Coomber


Re: My first Xway site is live

Andrew Eberlin
 

Looking good Tim and Keith.

I agree it is beta with some key features still to come, but I can see the potential to make Xway a worthy replacement of Freeway. Like all software, it requires practice to get used to its different approach. There are certainly improvements in ease of use compared to Freeway. 

After a few hours playing round, here is my first live website with Xway B2 (a website 'copied' over from Freeway Pro):

https://www.goodpa.co.uk


Re: Xway b2 is here!

Richard Cacciato
 

OK thanks so much. I know it’s a lot of work. Thanks for keeping at it!

Richard. 


On Jun 1, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Jeremy Hughes <jeremy@...> wrote:

Hi Richard,

1. Copy/paste is incomplete in Xway. You can copy plain text (User Guide, page 29), but you can’t copy links and styles along with it. This is high on our to-do list.

2. Master pages: Xway supports master styles (that’s what the Document Inspector deals with), but master content is a major task, and we want to do a better job than Freeway. Freeway didn’t support master content or styles for inflow boxes until version 6. We know this is a core feature.

3. Responsive menus: we’re thinking about how to do this. We know it’s important.

Jeremy



On 1 Jun 2020, at 21:52, Richard Cacciato <rcacciato@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hi Jeremy, a few questions.

1. Is it possible to copy elements from one page to another? I have a navbar on the home page and when I edit it in b2 and copy it the links don't seem to stick (unless I'm doing something wrong).

2. Master Pages: any idea when?

3. Same for responsive menus (hamburger menus) that appear at certain breakpoints.

Thanks.







Re: Xway b2 is here!

Jeremy Hughes
 

Hi Richard,

1. Copy/paste is incomplete in Xway. You can copy plain text (User Guide, page 29), but you can’t copy links and styles along with it. This is high on our to-do list.

2. Master pages: Xway supports master styles (that’s what the Document Inspector deals with), but master content is a major task, and we want to do a better job than Freeway. Freeway didn’t support master content or styles for inflow boxes until version 6. We know this is a core feature.

3. Responsive menus: we’re thinking about how to do this. We know it’s important.

Jeremy

On 1 Jun 2020, at 21:52, Richard Cacciato <rcacciato@blue-iceberg.com> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hi Jeremy, a few questions.

1. Is it possible to copy elements from one page to another? I have a navbar on the home page and when I edit it in b2 and copy it the links don't seem to stick (unless I'm doing something wrong).

2. Master Pages: any idea when?

3. Same for responsive menus (hamburger menus) that appear at certain breakpoints.

Thanks.


Re: Xway b2 is here!

Richard Cacciato
 
Edited

Hi Jeremy, a few questions.

1. Is it possible to copy elements from one page to another? I have a navbar on the home page and when I edit it in b2 and copy it the links don't seem to stick (unless I'm doing something wrong).

2. Master Pages: any idea when?

3. Same for responsive menus (hamburger menus) that appear at certain breakpoints.

Thanks.


Re: Xway b2 is here!

Richard Cacciato
 
Edited

Thanks Jeremy, I realized it and deleted my post.
 
Reading it now.

Richard.

Richard Cacciato


On Jun 1, 2020, at 3:04 PM, Jeremy Hughes <jeremy@...> wrote:
Hi Richard,

The Xway User Guide is available from the Help menu.

It’s always been there, but we revised and updated it for b2.

Jeremy



On 1 Jun 2020, at 20:02, Richard Cacciato <rcacciato@...> wrote:

Where is the new user guide Carla is referring to?







Re: Xway b2 is here!

Carla Grande
 

Hi Richard

the new updated user guide is within the xway folder
to to HELP
and you can access it there
its excellent



Carla Grande
Consultant & Website Designer
917 621 5550





On Jun 1, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Richard Cacciato <rcacciato@...> wrote:

Where is the new user guide Carla is referring to?


Re: Xway b2 is here!

Jeremy Hughes
 

Hi Richard,

The Xway User Guide is available from the Help menu.

It’s always been there, but we revised and updated it for b2.

Jeremy

On 1 Jun 2020, at 20:02, Richard Cacciato <rcacciato@blue-iceberg.com> wrote:

Where is the new user guide Carla is referring to?

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