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Re: Xway feedback

Jeremy Hughes
 

Hi Richard,

I've been looking through the Tutorial but can't find any mention of responsive menus or breakpoints. Is this something that would be associated with creating a Navigation box item? I can't find where to do that. Thanks.
Breakpoints are mentioned in the User Guide (page 14) as one of the features that we haven’t implemented yet.

Jeremy


Re: Couple of bugs

Jeremy Hughes
 

On 18 Dec 2019, at 18:59, Jeremy Hughes <jeremy@softpress.com> wrote:

MacOS interface issue: doesn't show dot in red circle when unsaved, just "edited" in title bar.
Xway doesn’t do anything special to hide or show this dot: it’s really under the control of macOS. On my system (I’m currently running Mojave) Xway behaves identically to Apple applications such as Pages, and follows the behaviour that Simon described: there is a dot if a document is edited and “Ask to keep changes when closing documents” is turned on in General System Preferences, but there isn’t a dot if the document hasn’t been changed (since it was last saved) or “Ask to keep changes” is turned off.
The “Ask to save changes” preference is also slightly confusing because it depends on whether you are editing a new document or an existing document:

1. If you are editing a new document, macOS always asks if you want to “keep this new document” regardless of whether you have “Ask to save changes” turned on or off.

2. If you are editing an existing document, macOS asks if you want to “save the changes” if you have “Ask to save changes” turned on, but saves them automatically if you have “Ask to save changes” turned off.

There don’t seem to be any differences (on my system) between Xway’s behaviour and the behaviour of Apple applications (e.g. TextEdit and Pages), however this preference is set.

Personally, I prefer to have “Ask to save changes” turned on.

Jeremy


Re: Couple of bugs

Jeremy Hughes
 

Hi Richard,

Thanks for the feedback!

1. Select the “Soft” in “Softpress” (as you would in any text editor). Xway now displays two additional Inspectors: the first is the Link Inspector (which we’ll ignore for now) and the second is the Span Inspector. The Span Inspector allows you to change the style of inline text runs (spans). Choose Bolder from the Weight popup, sdo that “Soft” is displayed in a bolder font weight. Then select “press” in “Softpress” and choose Lighter from the Weight popup. This creates a branding effect that matches our “Softpress” logo.

"press" isn't lighter in Xway though it is in a browser
It is lighter for me (in Xway and in browsers) - but this might depend on various factors including what fonts you are using. Xway asks the Cocoa font manager for a lighter weight, and it’s up to the Cocoa font manager to provide a lighter weight if one is available. It’s possible that different browsers will display slightly different weights - there isn’t an agreed mapping between CSS font weights and Apple font weights.

Generally, where font weights are concerned, you can normally assume that bold and regular fonts are available, but finer distinctions might not be available for all fonts.

Can't copy text styles from one box to another. The copied style appears briefly, then unstyled shows up.

Can't simply cut and paste a page element.
This is functionality that we haven’t implemented yet. The Xway User Guide (page 27) says:

"Xway currently has limited support for copying and pasting, but you can paste text into boxes. Pasted text is imported as plain text."

MacOS interface issue: doesn't show dot in red circle when unsaved, just "edited" in title bar.
Xway doesn’t do anything special to hide or show this dot: it’s really under the control of macOS. On my system (I’m currently running Mojave) Xway behaves identically to Apple applications such as Pages, and follows the behaviour that Simon described: there is a dot if a document is edited and “Ask to keep changes when closing documents” is turned on in General System Preferences, but there isn’t a dot if the document hasn’t been changed (since it was last saved) or “Ask to keep changes” is turned off.

Jeremy


Re: Xway feedback

Richard Cacciato
 

Hi Jeremy, I've been looking through the Tutorial but can't find any mention of responsive menus or breakpoints. Is this something that would be associated with creating a Navigation box item? I can't find where to do that. Thanks.


Re: Couple of bugs

Richard Cacciato
 

Thanks Simon. This seems to be automatic in other apps. In Pages, for example, if I open a document (or create a new one) and make a change, the dot appears. I know it's a nit but thought it should be reported.


Re: Couple of bugs

Simon Manning
 

Hi Richard,

Just focusing on the one I can answer right at this moment:

MacOS interface issue: doesn't show dot in red circle when unsaved, just "edited" in title bar.


Under Catalina, whether or not this dot will appear is controlled by whether or not you will be asked to save when closing a document with unsaved changes. I feel like this was also true under Mojave but I'm not completely certain about that.

You can find the setting in System Preferences > General > Ask to keep changes when closing documents. Note that to see the change in dot behaviour, you'll need to close and reopen the document after changing the setting.

Essentially that dot is synonymous to an ellipsis in a menu: "doing this will prompt you about something."

Simon


Re: Inserting photos

Steve
 

Hi Jeremy,

Will the resizing of photos/images in Xway be implemented in a future version or will all graphics have to be the size they are to appear in the browser?

Just trying to clarify this, on the site that I look after I have 22 pages of product images (1,640) that are all scaled to size in Freeway, this also keeps them all together in one place. These pages don't appear in the final site but are used to resize the images to fit in the space on the product pages.

As Geoff says having to have all images the correct size does seem a backward step, Freeway was very flexible in the way it treated images.

Having said that, from what I have seen so far Xway is very usable and has one of the best features of Freeway in that you can see the whole structure of your site in the site panel. This makes organising a site so much easier.

I look forward to the next beta...

Steve.



Re: Inserting photos

Geoff Mullett
 

Yes, I'm doing that. It's no big deal, but having got so used to the flexibility of the Freeway method, the need to import images at the correct size seems a backward step.

Geoff


Re: Couple of bugs

Richard Cacciato
 

OK, if I leave the Dimensions > Width undefined the text box resizes. I have to set the right margin to make it indent and it works fine on my laptop. However it doesn't resize automatically on my iPhone. How does one set it to automatically resize on a smartphone screen? Thanks.


Re: Couple of bugs

Richard Cacciato
 

Here's an example: https://www.blue-iceberg.com/clients/xwaytest/ When I resize the page, the logo changes size but the text box remains fixed width. Is this a setting I have to change?


Re: Couple of bugs

Richard Cacciato
 

Also, text boxes don't resize when the page width is reduced, though images do.


Couple of bugs

Richard Cacciato
 

Here are a couple of bugs I've come across while playing with Xway:

1. Select the “Soft” in “Softpress” (as you would in any text editor). Xway now displays two additional Inspectors: the first is the Link Inspector (which we’ll ignore for now) and the second is the Span Inspector. The Span Inspector allows you to change the style of inline text runs (spans). Choose Bolder from the Weight popup, sdo that “Soft” is displayed in a bolder font weight. Then select “press” in “Softpress” and choose Lighter from the Weight popup. This creates a branding effect that matches our “Softpress” logo. 

 

"press" isn't lighter in Xway though it is in a browser

 

Xway:

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Browser:

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Can't copy text styles from one box to another. The copied style appears briefly, then unstyled shows up.

 

 

 

Can't simply cut and paste a page element.

 

MacOS interface issue: doesn't show dot in red circle when unsaved, just "edited" in title bar.

 

 


Re: Inserting photos

Jeremy Hughes
 

Hi Geoff,

I think that Xway is failing to recognise that the graphic has been modified (in Photoshop) - and when you reimport it, it thinks that it is the same graphic and is not updating its preview.

As a workaround, try saving the modified graphic under a different name and reimport it after doing this.

Jeremy

On 17 Dec 2019, at 17:47, Geoff Mullett <geoff10a@gmail.com> wrote:

In Xway, there seems to be no facility to add a photo and then scale it to the required size. In Freeway, one drew a graphics box, inserted the photo and selected Item > Graphic > Scale & Pad
Perhaps this will come in a later update, however at the moment, when inserting a photo in Xway, if it appears to be too large, subsequent scaling in Photoshop and replacing the original using Save As… has no visible effect when re-inserting it into the Xway page. When previewing, the newly-scaled pic looks fine, but because it doesn’t appear with the new dimensions in Xway, it throws the whole layout awry.
Geoff


Inserting photos

Geoff Mullett
 

In Xway, there seems to be no facility to add a photo and then scale it to the required size. In Freeway, one drew a graphics box, inserted the photo and selected Item > Graphic > Scale & Pad

Perhaps this will come in a later update, however at the moment, when inserting a photo in Xway, if it appears to be too large, subsequent scaling in Photoshop and replacing the original using Save As… has no visible effect when re-inserting it into the Xway page. When previewing, the newly-scaled pic looks fine, but because it doesn’t appear with the new dimensions in Xway, it throws the whole layout awry.
Geoff

 


Re: Hide Inspector panel?

Jeremy Hughes
 

Hi Keith

The new Inspector panel is clearly incredibly useful for both editing and checking values, but sometimes (especially when working on a laptop) I'd like to be able to hide that and maximise the space available to show a page. I rather like the way Apple's Pages/Keynote/Numbers apps can hide their 'options' panel area on the right – I do this more than a little when using those apps. It seems like a useful concept to include in Xway's general behaviour.
Absolutely!

Ditto the Site panel.

Jeremy


Re: Embed/insert HTML content?

Jeremy Hughes
 

Hi Keith,

Is there a reason why markup items are always tiny? I'd find it helpful to be able to scale those things (and maybe colour them?) in the layout, at least to help design-time layout decisions. Or is this the old print designer instinct kicking in when I should be channeling my inner code geek?
They’re tiny because Xway/Freeway doesn't know how much space they will take.

We’re hoping to display previews for non-inline markup items in a future version of Xway. This would allow them to be displayed at their natural size.

[Inline markup items are more tricky, because they could be split across several lines of text.]

Jeremy


Re: Inspector Show/Hide labels

ThatKeith
 

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 06:02 PM, Jeremy Hughes wrote:
The Show/Hide labels are copied from the Show/Hide labels in the Finder, iTunes, Xcode, and other Apple software. I find them less cluttered than disclosure triangles.
I see your point. (And I raise you... ;)

In Keynote – which I happen to have open now – the equivalent interface things for panes within a panel show a disclosure arrow *before* each pane's title and no Show/Hide text on the right, similar to the Xway/Freeway Site panel items. In Keynote the titles themselves also work as clickable triggers.

(I find *those* arrows to be marginally less distracting than text labels, but I totally get that this is my own subjective feeling.)

k


Re: Embed/insert HTML content?

ThatKeith
 

Heh. Well, it's been a while so the details are very hazy – but yes, I used iFrames. I also set up preview images that show until an item is clicked, which hides the preview and loads the pano in the iFrame. Good grief what a smartass! I wonder how I did that? :D

Anyway, I've been trying out basic iFrame code in a markup item, and it's working to an extent straight out of the box.

Is there a reason why markup items are always tiny? I'd find it helpful to be able to scale those things (and maybe colour them?) in the layout, at least to help design-time layout decisions. Or is this the old print designer instinct kicking in when I should be channeling my inner code geek?


Re: Cannot reopen site

ThatKeith
 

Hi William,
This forum/mailing list doesn't seem to support attachments (which helps avoid filling everyone's email inboxes I presume), so could you put the images online somewhere?

In the meantime, command-click on the title in the Finder window to show the folder path and go TWO levels up, not just one. (Alternatively, hit Command-Up Arrow twice to step up two levels from inside the Site folder.) You should see your Xway document there. Each Xway document is in fact a package and the Site folder is stored within that.

(PS, your queries will be easier to track if you use the New Topic button in the site or send a new email (not a reply) to xway-talk@softpress.groups.io. :) )

k


Re: Embed/insert HTML content?

Jeremy Hughes
 

Hi Keith,

Is this something that you could use an iframe for?

Currently, you can use markup items to do this. We're planning to have more direct support for iframes in a future version.

How do you add panoramas in Freeway?

Jeremy

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